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    Helios Set (Level 60+) Attribute Bonus

    Hello.

    As the wiki page does not list which stat the Helios Set (Level 60+) benefits from for certain classes (specifically -- Musketeer, Privateer, and Witchdoctor), I decided to analyze this to obtain some information.
    I also experimented with my Pirate's stats, as I have an idea as to what the stat bonus for this weapon is based on (this will be explained below).
    For each class, two pictures will be shown -- one displaying a bonus from Agility, the other displaying a bonus from Strength.

    Here are the pictures:

    Buccaneer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Buccaneer, AGI bonus.jpg
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    Name:  Helios Set -- Buccaneer, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  95.3 KB

    Musketeer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Musket, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  102.4 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Musket, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.0 KB

    Privateer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Privateer, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.4 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Privateer, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.9 KB

    Swashbuckler:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Swashbuckler, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  102.2 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Swashbuckler, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  101.2 KB

    Witchdoctor:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Witchdoctor, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  89.3 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Witchdoctor, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  89.3 KB

    As you can see, the attribute bonus (bonus from Strength / Agility / Will) for this weapon is not determined by class.
    Instead, it seems to be based on which stat is higher.

    In this case, Agility and Strength are compared.
    If the user has more Agility than Strength, then the weapon uses Agility.
    If the user has more Strength than Agility (or the same amount), then the weapon uses Strength.



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    Re: Helios Set (Level 60+) Attribute Bonus

    I think that this same observation was made a few years ago regarding other combo weapons. Unfortunately, changing how the wiki displays these bonuses would require a template rewrite as well as going back through all existing weapon pages to match the rewritten code.

    It would be quite a project, even with a few active wiki-masters.

    EDIT - would you mind providing the sell value for the item for the wiki page?

    Last edited by Willowdreamer; 08-07-2019 at 12:46 PM.




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    Re: Helios Set (Level 60+) Attribute Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Nightblade View Post
    Hello.

    As the wiki page does not list which stat the Helios Set (Level 60+) benefits from for certain classes (specifically -- Musketeer, Privateer, and Witchdoctor), I decided to analyze this to obtain some information.
    I also experimented with my Pirate's stats, as I have an idea as to what the stat bonus for this weapon is based on (this will be explained below).
    For each class, two pictures will be shown -- one displaying a bonus from Agility, the other displaying a bonus from Strength.

    Here are the pictures:

    Buccaneer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Buccaneer, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  95.2 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Buccaneer, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  95.3 KB

    Musketeer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Musket, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  102.4 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Musket, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.0 KB

    Privateer:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Privateer, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.4 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Privateer, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  103.9 KB

    Swashbuckler:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Swashbuckler, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  102.2 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Swashbuckler, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  101.2 KB

    Witchdoctor:
    Name:  Helios Set -- Witchdoctor, AGI bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  89.3 KB
    Name:  Helios Set -- Witchdoctor, STR bonus.jpg
Views: 19
Size:  89.3 KB

    As you can see, the attribute bonus (bonus from Strength / Agility / Will) for this weapon is not determined by class.
    Instead, it seems to be based on which stat is higher.

    In this case, Agility and Strength are compared.
    If the user has more Agility than Strength, then the weapon uses Agility.
    If the user has more Strength than Agility (or the same amount), then the weapon uses Strength.
    This information was provided by the developers in 2014:

    https://www.pirate101.com/forum/the-...464380abc129a4



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    Re: Helios Set (Level 60+) Attribute Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingurz View Post
    This information was provided by the developers in 2014:

    https://www.pirate101.com/forum/the-...464380abc129a4
    Ah, I see.
    Although it addresses Privateer units mainly, it can also be applied to the other classes.
    Thanks for showing this!

    Edit -- The Helios Set (Lv65+), Helios Set (Lv70+), Firecat Set, and Phoenix Set don't seem to have the same trend, as they seem to be based on Agility only, regardless of stat.
    (I checked with my Buccaneer.)
    Last edited by Cody Nightblade; 08-08-2019 at 01:40 AM.



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    Re: Helios Set (Level 60+) Attribute Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Willowdreamer View Post
    I think that this same observation was made a few years ago regarding other combo weapons. Unfortunately, changing how the wiki displays these bonuses would require a template rewrite as well as going back through all existing weapon pages to match the rewritten code.

    It would be quite a project, even with a few active wiki-masters.

    EDIT - would you mind providing the sell value for the item for the wiki page?

    Sure thing!

    Here's a picture displaying the sell value for this item:
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